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2016 IPRAA Nationals Phillip Island

Post by Notso Swift » Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:24 pm

Contrary to popular opinion, I do have mechanical sympathy, I always feel sorry for the cars I drive.

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Post by TwinTurbo » Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:12 pm

Too early to ask if it's separate grids for U2L and O2L?

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Post by Steve thomas » Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:18 pm

Last one of these I went to was likely the best even I've been to. Can't wait for 2016.
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Post by Gridfilla » Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:09 pm

Got the 2009 Nationals banner in the workshop .... Keen to get back and get into it with the Silvia next year!
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Post by TwinTurbo » Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:28 pm

I think my clothes and shoes might just about have dried off from the 2009 deluge.. :lol: :lol: :lol:
At least I've got a year to dig out the air bed, in lieu of the garage creeper. :wink: :wink: :wink:
Luv the track itself :D :D :D

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Post by switch » Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:56 am

Can anyone shed some light on the need for oil system upgrades for fwd cars? Have spoken with a few competitors who have raced there and lost engines due to oil loss. We have been told an accusump is the bare minimum. One competitor refuses to go back without a dry sump system.

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Post by Notso Swift » Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:31 am

The aim is to have a U2L and O2L final, numbers dependent
There is a good chance that Entries will need to be capped, unfortunately

Switch, may be best to ask the guys after Island Magic
Lots of fast FWD have not had a problem but I can't say how well their sump was designed, not to mention standard pump efficiency. Some motors (like mine) have oil issues on a straight road past 6000 so it isn't a good reference point!
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Post by TwinTurbo » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:11 am

switch wrote:Can anyone shed some light on the need for oil system upgrades for fwd cars? Have spoken with a few competitors who have raced there and lost engines due to oil loss. We have been told an accusump is the bare minimum. One competitor refuses to go back without a dry sump system.
Hi Anthony, I have had 22 Hondas, most of them FWD and most of them race cars. I have never used an acusump and only used a dry sump system on one Honda and that because the engine was delivered from Japan with a dry sump set up and was too hard to change back to wet sump. I have run Hondas at Philip Island for over 30 years and not had an oil surge problem, that includes 6 hour, 1 hour and 2 hour races, most recently in a DC5. Mostly I use Mugen sumps, with their internal baffling, and I haven't see any evidence of oil surge on the data log. Oil temp can get quite high on Honda engines, especially those with piston oil squirters, so I have always run relatively large oil coolers. The OE oil pumps are very well spec'd so I have not seen the need to change them.


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Post by mikrace » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:37 am

[quote="Notso Swift"]The aim is to have a U2L and O2L final, numbers dependent
There is a good chance that Entries will need to be capped, unfortunately

With the easy sell out of the IPRA grid at Island Magic this year, the Nationals will be filled within days. So what is proposed entry acceptance criteria? First in or some form of qualification or previous history??

Island Magic this year doesn't have all the usual Vic competitors, never mind the SA, QLD or WA guys... It does seem to have the majority of NSW guys who ran this year though O_O!!!
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Re: 2016 IPRAA Nationals discussion thread

Post by Born Again Racer » Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:18 am

mikrace wrote:
Notso Swift wrote:The aim is to have a U2L and O2L final, numbers dependent
There is a good chance that Entries will need to be capped, unfortunately

With the easy sell out of the IPRA grid at Island Magic this year, the Nationals will be filled within days. So what is proposed entry acceptance criteria? First in or some form of qualification or previous history??

Island Magic this year doesn't have all the usual Vic competitors, never mind the SA, QLD or WA guys... It does seem to have the majority of NSW guys who ran this year though O_O!!!
Personally it would seem appropriate to base order of acceptance on competition at state rounds in the year. Plus Leigh of course

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Post by TwinTurbo » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:10 pm

The history has been that there is no limit on the number of entries at IPRA Nationals, all entries are accepted. From memory in 2009 for the Nationals at PI we had 90 entries. I'd expect over 100 for next year. =D> =D> =D>

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Post by switch » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:35 pm

So how will the nationals run in conjunction with island magic? This year ipra has sold out one grid with x other categories filling up the rest of the program. Do those categories get shafted so we can run the normal multiple heats/finals format?

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Post by Born Again Racer » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:36 pm

TwinTurbo wrote:The history has been that there is no limit on the number of entries at IPRA Nationals, all entries are accepted. From memory in 2009 for the Nationals at PI we had 90 entries. I'd expect over 100 for next year. =D> =D> =D>

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I think where the problem will occur, as there is only space on the program for 2 fields and the track limit is 50

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Post by Notso Swift » Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:55 pm

Early days yet guys, but yes, other classes will miss out, we have been guaranteed a minimum of the same track time as last time.

50 is the track capacity for racing, so that is 100, last time I think we had 98 entries with 90 taking part, and only 80 making the end of Sunday. It is entirely possible we could over subscribe as 55 can qualify, so maybe 104
It we be a few months away before we work out how entries come out (ie and EOI/pre-registration deposit/straight to entries) but there will be a notice period before they are released to everyone at the same time.
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Post by Barney » Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:06 am

Cant wait for this, I just need to pull my finger out and finish the car off!

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Post by TwinTurbo » Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:48 am

Barney wrote:Cant wait for this, I just need to pull my finger out and finish the car off!
Hell yes, get your finger out, the Stang would be great at PI =D> =D> =D>
Plus 2017 is IPRAWA's turn for the Nationals, a season of racing would help that rather a lot :idea:
Do I need to travel west again to add the necessary impetus :wink:



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Post by Barney » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:47 pm

TwinTurbo wrote:
Barney wrote:Cant wait for this, I just need to pull my finger out and finish the car off!
Hell yes, get your finger out, the Stang would be great at PI =D> =D> =D>
Plus 2017 is IPRAWA's turn for the Nationals, a season of racing would help that rather a lot :idea:
Do I need to travel west again to add the necessary impetus :wink:



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The car would be great at the Island but the driver will be learning the track. I will need some advice on setup and diff ratios.
Would be great if you came West again.
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Post by TwinTurbo » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:04 pm

Barney wrote:
TwinTurbo wrote:
Barney wrote:Cant wait for this, I just need to pull my finger out and finish the car off!
Hell yes, get your finger out, the Stang would be great at PI =D> =D> =D>
Plus 2017 is IPRAWA's turn for the Nationals, a season of racing would help that rather a lot :idea:
Do I need to travel west again to add the necessary impetus :wink:
The car would be great at the Island but the driver will be learning the track. I will need some advice on setup and diff ratios.
Would be great if you came West again.
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Come over the month before the Vic round at PI, I'm sure I could find someone who could house the car for you. Too bad it's not a GM product, could hide it at HRT :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by Steve thomas » Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:28 pm

TwinTurbo wrote:
Barney wrote: Do I need to travel west again to add the necessary impetus :wink:



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Post by Steve thomas » Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:29 pm

TwinTurbo wrote:
Barney wrote:
TwinTurbo wrote:
Barney wrote:Cant wait for this, I just need to pull my finger out and finish the car off!
Hell yes, get your finger out, the Stang would be great at PI =D> =D> =D>
Plus 2017 is IPRAWA's turn for the Nationals, a season of racing would help that rather a lot :idea:
Do I need to travel west again to add the necessary impetus :wink:
The car would be great at the Island but the driver will be learning the track. I will need some advice on setup and diff ratios.
Would be great if you came West again.
Ash
Come over the month before the Vic round at PI, I'm sure I could find someone who could house the car for you. Too bad it's not a GM product, could hide it at HRT :lol: :lol: :lol:
I've been trying to justify a visit to our new logistics facility at Malaga all this year, but that's not going to happen ](*,)

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